[Kurian @ Nov 4th 2007 4:23AM]

I can understand the need for signed code on a PSP, Xbox360 or PS3. Because the sole purpose of them is to play original games (And Sony graciously lets the PS3 run unsigned non-games = fuck you Microsoft).

But this is a bloody PDA. Its meant to run applications. WTF do they even lose by implementing signed code protection.

And dont give me that BS about unlocking causing them losses. Such people wouldnt have bought an iPhone at all if it wasnt unlockable.

Just like Sony's PS2 sales in Asia will be 0 units if not for pirated games.

[Kurian @ Nov 4th 2007 4:24AM]

I meant "gain" not lose.

[404error @ Nov 4th 2007 5:45AM]

It may not cost them sales but it would certainly piss off AT&T

[Hawkman @ Nov 4th 2007 9:46AM]

It's not a "bloody PDA", it's a phone - and billions of phones are sold every year without the ability to run additional applications. This is one such device.

Just because it runs OS X, doesn't mean it should be able to run Photoshop. If it ran a custom OS - like iPods always did - would everyone feel the same way? Blatantly not; compare the complete lack of a fuss that iPods couldn't run apps with the total outrage that the OS X-based iPod touch was locked down. Double standards much?

I say this a UK resident who desperately wants the new firmware cracked open so I don't have to sign up with the jokers at O2. I have no right to _expect_ that, though.

Not to mention that eventually applications will be allowed on the iPhone anyway. Seriously, sometimes I just want to bang heads together.

[Ignacio @ Nov 4th 2007 10:16AM]

"Just because it runs OS X, doesn't mean it should be able to run Photoshop. If it ran a custom OS - like iPods always did - would everyone feel the same way? Blatantly not; compare the complete lack of a fuss that iPods couldn't run apps with the total outrage that the OS X-based iPod touch was locked down. Double standards much?"

Yeah, tell me: how would you type or move a pointer on a classic iPod? That is the BIG difference: input methods. The iPhone and the iPod have them, the other iPods can't really do much more than "play media", but the multitouch screen + wifi makes them a far more interesting "general purpose" devices. Also, having Steve Jobs say "it runs OS X" seemed to make that point even more clear, that's why everyone was so upset about the lack of support for third party apps.

[dagamer34 @ Nov 4th 2007 1:08PM]

You people forget to realize what kind of information you store on your phone. Phone numbers, names, addresses, e-mails, SMS messages. If a program were to run rampant on your iPhone and upload that data a little bit at a time, you'd be fucked. Do you really want that?

As much as I'd like to stick it to Apple for not having 3rd-party apps, more importantly, you want a secure SDK otherwise millions of spam coming to you is a LOT fucking worse than not being able to play Tetris of an NES game.

[Kurian @ Nov 4th 2007 3:46PM]

Symbian phones for YEARS have not had any kind of bs like this.

[BoredOne @ Nov 4th 2007 5:10PM]

"404error @ Nov 4th 2007 5:45AM
It may not cost them sales but it would certainly piss off AT&T"

Apple is making almost 500 dollars per contract with AT&T. Don't act like Apple doesn't have a horse in this race.