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"Apple's latest iPhone firmware, as you've probably heard"
No Ryan...No we haven't heard a damn thing about this...What with the posts every 5 minutes and all....
Maybe this will cause you guys to hate Apple so much you will stop blogging about them every 5 minutes.
We don't write about Apple a lot because we love them (nor, conversely, hate Microsoft); we do it because there's a lot of interesting Apple news and information out there that our audience appreciates. Ain't into it? Use the Apple-free feeds! (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/tired-of-iphone-and-or-apple-news-on-engadget/)
@Ryan
Hey that's a great idea about the RSS Feed stuff. But one problem. I noticed in the past that when I use this page, it is sometimes way out of date than what is currently on the website. I do not know why but I have noticed it being somewhere around 5 articles behind.
And don't tell me Apple is the only company with "Interesting" news out there.
Check this http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/surface.ars
More information on the Microsoft Surface.
Also I think your audience hates all the news as much as me. Did you check out that pole later back when you asked about the iPhone update? What was it like 40% of people said they were sick of it? (Yeah I know people can be stuffing the boxes."
Seriously I don't mind actual News but you guys post stuff that is just junk.
I'm still waiting for a "IT'S ALL MICROSOFT'S FAULT MY IPHONE WON'T WORK" from some fanboy.
Come on. This is an excellent post on an issue that is important to many engadget readers. I'm glad engadget is following this issue closely and serving as a mediator. I want apple to consider this issue carefully and figure out a way to give us native 3rd party apps without damaging their bussiness strategy. Thanks for laying it out.
Why not just make the feed have additional apple stuff for people who care instead of having it be the filtered mechanism.
apple isn't the only company doing things people are interested in ryan, give me a break. remember that whole halo3 thing? that you didn't report on becuase it was 'software' ya.. you only do hardware.
it made 170mil in 24 hours, records and stuff... that was news.. apparently... somewhere...
do what you want, blog what you want, but don't make silly excuses for it.
I don't think Apple "confused" of "conflated" the difference between unlocking and third-party apps at all. Unfortunately, EVERYONE seemed to be doing this. Leo Leporte went on a diatribe about it on MacBreak, merging the two concepts so seamlessly, you'd think AppTap had caused his Visual Voicemail to stop working. The only thing Apple didn't do, is provide a glossary at the beginning of the press release. Engadget itself even said that Apple came "close" to putting an onus on 3rd party development, but seemed pretty clear they were referring to unlockers, and the specific modifications unlocking made. I honestly think the REAL story here, that NO ONE is talking about, is whether the unlocking process truly messed up the IMEI numbers on phones, in part, or in whole (in ANY way). TUAW commented that this tendency to see munged IMEI numbers didn't seem connected to unlocks, yet did note that this was more common during early unlocking attempts. Altering the IMEI number in and of itself is actually against the law, as it could constitute an attempt to "clone" a phone, or otherwise masquerade the device using its serial number.
I'd love to call it like I see it, and say Apple did wrong. It DID NOT. If they did ANYthing wrong, it was not immediately coming out and saying, #1.) DO NOT HACK the iPhone with 3rd party applications. We are currently working on the security model of the device, and any alterations to these areas will likely be reset during major firmware updates, as we tighten security. #2.) Please be patient (already said), but we are planning 3rd party native application support in 2008. We will have more details when they're available. Until then, please take advantage of the level of support we can currently guarantee. We thank yo for your business.
Everything else is justifiable and expected. Look up UNLOCKING on the Internet. In some countries, its a "right". Here in the U.S., it is an "exemption" from prosecution under the DMCA. Doesn't that sound like we should be working on the LAWS, and not the individual business models of companies that work inside of the status quo? Currently, unlocking phones is a MINEFIELD, and if you're on the CDMA network (Verizon), you're more than likely out of luck if they decide to keep their network groovy for only "approved" devices "optimized" by excluding support for your phone.
Come on people. Big picture now.
I don't think your comment really holds any weight unless Engadget stops covering the other stuff because of Apple News. And considering Engadget DID cover MS Surface, I don't think you have any right to complain. Sorry there is an article for you to skip. Maybe I should start complaining whenever I see an MS related article. I could start complaining about how many MS Surface posts there are. But, the problem is, MS Surface is a device almost no one has touched, where as anyone can walk into an Apple Store and mess around with an iPhone. When people are surrounded by a tech, it becomes much more meaningful and relevant, and then you see more stories for it. Since that is definitely true with Apple devices, you see more Apple stories. If you don't like Apple, you are ignoring a major part of the tech industry, and I feel sorry for you.
BUT PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING. ITS A WASTE OF TIME!!!
Or how about, guys, you just scroll right past the articles you don't want to read? That's what I do every time there's an article about the XBox or PlayStation. Don't care, don't read it. You're the only ones wasting your own time by reading--and commenting on, no less--news you don't care about. I hate to say it, but that's just being a troll.
you idiot, you don't speak for the engadget 'audience', seriously if you don't like th blog I've got some award winning advice, Don't read it, much less don't bother wasting your time posting comments on it. ryan + team keep up the good work don't listen to this dudes crap.
Hey Ryan,
I hope you take their criticism as constructive. I for one don't mind seeing Apple news on your website. If I don't want to read it then I just skip it. Kind of like the radio or TV station thing where if I don't like a certain show then I just try to find another that suits my fancy in a different channel. So maybe this is a good thing that people are airing out their gripes.
Now, perhaps you may want to consider opening up an Engadget Apple site, similar to what you did with Engadget HD and Engadget Mobile. Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site. Just a thought.
Personally, I've always been a fan and appreciate the hard work you guys do. Besides, I don't know of any other blog that has user meets and tries their hardest for people to have a good time (Boston 2006 baby, yeah!).
I think this letter is great and I hope you will get the same response from Apple as you did from Palm. I sent a complaint letter to Steve over the weekend where I mentioned my frustration at him as well for allowing the 3rd party apps to be taken out. I asked if the reasoning for this was because Apple will be introducing software for the iPhone soon. If so then he should let us know. His response was that they're working on the things that I suggested. Whether it was Steve or not I don't know but I've heard the guy actually reads his emails and responds to them.
Anyway, don't take the criticism in a negative way. Their point is valid. See my suggestions above and hopefully they make sense.
APeguero
Why dont you STFU and go elsewhere if you're not happy with the Apple posts here.
look at the title of this blog. Go to Ilovetocook.com if you don't want to see (no one's making you read them) posts about the iphone.
Drakin,
I find your post to be highly uncalled for. I own an iPhone and have heard a great deal about it, but don't complain every time I see a post about it. There is an inordinate amount of places to gather your daily info. There is no need to be negative and call out the author of a post for doing his job.
You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.
For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site. However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.
Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone. However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.
Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.
There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.
You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.
For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site. However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.
Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone. However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.
Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.
There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.
Ryan, you know, it's not that everybody of us, people who are tired of i-this i-that, do not care about apple. We would like our feeds to have IMPORTANT apple news. We want to know about everything, not just about apple or just about anything BUT apple. It's that simple.
@ haters:
Is this your blog??? No. Hmm...thats what I thought. STFU!! The man can post whatever he wants.
"Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site."
Err... why AREN'T all the iPhone posts specifically made on the Engadget Mobile site? I mean, isn't that site SPECIFICALLY for mobile phones and similar devices? Seriously, posting about a cellphone in the cellphone edition of Engadget is just so much more appropriate it's not funny.
Huge diffrence between news and "steve landed in another country" "jobs takes dump" etc
you Go Drakin!!!
wow dude you suck! who subscribes to a blog and then turns around and bashes the content? there are a bazzzilion tech blogs out there. go pick one that super-serves your own selfish needs!....makes ya sound like a content-nazi. Douche!
Dude maybe you and maybe a lot of people dont like it but some of us fuckin love it so stfu and stop reading it, just move the hell on and dont waste your time posting. Engadget is not going to cut it out because some little whiney bitch like you cries a river over it.
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