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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[haha, LOL. So true...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gizmoguy420]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:37PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA["Apple's latest iPhone firmware, as you've probably heard"<br><br>No Ryan...No we haven't heard a damn thing about this...What with the posts every 5 minutes and all....<br><br>Maybe this will cause you guys to hate Apple so much you will stop blogging about them every 5 minutes.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[We don't write about Apple a lot because we love them (nor, conversely, hate Microsoft); we do it because there's a lot of interesting Apple news and information out there that our audience appreciates. Ain't into it? Use the Apple-free feeds! (<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/tired-of-iphone-and-or-apple-news-on-engadget/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/tired-of-iphone-and-or-apple-news-on-engadget/</a>)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Block]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Ryan<br><br>Hey that's a great idea about the RSS Feed stuff. But one problem. I noticed in the past that when I use this page, it is sometimes way out of date than what is currently on the website. I do not know why but I have noticed it being somewhere around 5 articles behind. <br><br>And don't tell me Apple is the only company with "Interesting" news out there.<br><br>Check this <a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/surface.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/surface.ars</a><br><br>More information on the Microsoft Surface.<br><br>Also I think your audience hates all the news as much as me. Did you check out that pole later back when you asked about the iPhone update? What was it like 40% of people said they were sick of it? (Yeah I know people can be stuffing the boxes."<br><br>Seriously I don't mind actual News but you guys post stuff that is just junk.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm still waiting for a "IT'S ALL MICROSOFT'S FAULT MY IPHONE WON'T WORK" from some fanboy.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[aaron]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Come on.  This is an excellent post on an issue that is important to many engadget readers.  I'm glad engadget is following this issue closely and serving as a mediator.  I want apple to consider this issue carefully and figure out a way to give us native 3rd party apps without damaging their bussiness strategy.  Thanks for laying it out.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jusitn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:31PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why not just make the feed have additional apple stuff for people who care instead of having it be the filtered mechanism.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hardcore]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[apple isn't the only company doing things people are interested in ryan, give me a break. remember that whole halo3 thing? that you didn't report on becuase it was 'software' ya.. you only do hardware.<br><br>it made 170mil in 24 hours, records and stuff... that was news.. apparently... somewhere...<br><br>do what you want, blog what you want, but don't make silly excuses for it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dj-kenpo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:47PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think Apple "confused" of "conflated" the difference between unlocking and third-party apps at all.  Unfortunately, EVERYONE seemed to be doing this. Leo Leporte went on a diatribe about it on MacBreak, merging the two concepts so seamlessly, you'd think AppTap had caused his Visual Voicemail to stop working.  The only thing Apple didn't do, is provide a glossary at the beginning of the press release.  Engadget itself even said that Apple came "close" to putting an onus on 3rd party development, but seemed pretty clear they were referring to unlockers, and the specific modifications unlocking made.  I honestly think the REAL story here, that NO ONE is talking about, is whether the unlocking process truly messed up the IMEI numbers on phones, in part, or in whole (in ANY way). TUAW commented that this tendency to see munged IMEI numbers didn't seem connected to unlocks, yet did note that this was more common during early unlocking attempts. Altering the IMEI number in and of itself is actually against the law, as it could constitute an attempt to "clone" a phone, or otherwise masquerade the device using its serial number.<br><br>I'd love to call it like I see it, and say Apple did wrong.  It DID NOT.  If they did ANYthing wrong, it was not immediately coming out and saying, #1.) DO NOT HACK the iPhone with 3rd party applications. We are currently working on the security model of the device, and any alterations to these areas will likely be reset during major firmware updates, as we tighten security. #2.) Please be patient (already said), but we are planning 3rd party native application support in 2008.  We will have more details when they're available.  Until then, please take advantage of the level of support we can currently guarantee.  We thank yo for your business.<br><br>Everything else is justifiable and expected.  Look up UNLOCKING on the Internet.  In some countries, its a "right".  Here in the U.S., it is an "exemption" from prosecution under the DMCA.  Doesn't that sound like we should be working on the LAWS, and not the individual business models of companies that work inside of the status quo?  Currently, unlocking phones is a MINEFIELD, and if you're on the CDMA network (Verizon), you're more than likely out of luck if they decide to keep their network groovy for only "approved" devices "optimized" by excluding support for your phone.<br><br>Come on people. Big picture now.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cleverboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:17PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think your comment really holds any weight unless Engadget stops covering the other stuff because of Apple News.  And considering Engadget DID cover MS Surface, I don't think you have any right to complain.  Sorry there is an article for you to skip.  Maybe I should start complaining whenever I see an MS related article.  I could start complaining about how many MS Surface posts there are.  But, the problem is, MS Surface is a device almost no one has touched, where as anyone can walk into an Apple Store and mess around with an iPhone.  When people are surrounded by a tech, it becomes much more meaningful and relevant, and then you see more stories for it.  Since that is definitely true with Apple devices, you see more Apple stories.  If you don't like Apple, you are ignoring a major part of the tech industry, and I feel sorry for you.<br><br>BUT PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING.  ITS A WASTE OF TIME!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Micah Neumark]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Or how about, guys, you just scroll right past the articles you don't want to read? That's what I do every time there's an article about the XBox or PlayStation. Don't care, don't read it. You're the only ones wasting your own time by reading--and commenting on, no less--news you don't care about. I hate to say it, but that's just being a troll.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Reid Sorenson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[you idiot, you don't speak for the engadget 'audience', seriously if you don't like th blog I've got some award winning advice, Don't read it, much less don't bother wasting your time posting comments on it. ryan + team keep up the good work don't listen to this dudes crap.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 2nd 2007 11:09AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hey Ryan,<br><br>I hope you take their criticism as constructive.  I for one don't mind seeing Apple news on your website.  If I don't want to read it then I just skip it.  Kind of like the radio or TV station thing where if I don't like a certain show then I just try to find another that suits my fancy in a different channel.  So maybe this is a good thing that people are airing out their gripes.<br><br>Now, perhaps you may want to consider opening up an Engadget Apple site, similar to what you did with Engadget HD and Engadget Mobile.  Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site.  Just a thought.<br><br>Personally, I've always been a fan and appreciate the hard work you guys do.  Besides, I don't know of any other blog that has user meets and tries their hardest for people to have a good time (Boston 2006 baby, yeah!).  <br><br>I think this letter is great and I hope you will get the same response from Apple as you did from Palm.  I sent a complaint letter to Steve over the weekend where I mentioned my frustration at him as well for allowing the 3rd party apps to be taken out.  I asked if the reasoning for this was because Apple will be introducing software for the iPhone soon.  If so then he should let us know.  His response was that they're working on the things that I suggested.  Whether it was Steve or not I don't know but I've heard the guy actually reads his emails and responds to them.<br><br>Anyway, don't take the criticism in a negative way.  Their point is valid.  See my suggestions above and hopefully they make sense.<br><br>APeguero]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[apeguero]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:31PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why dont you STFU and go elsewhere if you're not happy with the Apple posts here.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[look at the title of this blog.  Go to Ilovetocook.com if you don't want to see (no one's making you read them) posts about the iphone.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[yakapo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Drakin, <br>I find your post to be highly uncalled for.  I own an iPhone and have heard a great deal about it, but don't complain every time I see a post about it.  There is an inordinate amount of places to gather your daily info.  There is no need to be negative and call out the author of a post for doing his job.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jlotempio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.  <br><br>For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site.  However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.<br><br>Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone.  However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.  <br><br>Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.<br><br>There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Sinshack]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.  <br><br>For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site.  However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.<br><br>Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone.  However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.  <br><br>Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.<br><br>There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Sinshack]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ryan, you know, it's not that everybody of us, people who are tired of i-this i-that, do not care about apple. We would like our feeds to have IMPORTANT apple news. We want to know about everything, not just about apple or just about anything BUT apple. It's that simple.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ark_v2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ haters:<br><br>Is this your blog??? No.  Hmm...thats what I thought.  STFU!!  The man can post whatever he wants.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jacob]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 4:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA["Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site."<br>Err... why AREN'T all the iPhone posts specifically made on the Engadget Mobile site? I mean, isn't that site SPECIFICALLY for mobile phones and similar devices? Seriously, posting about a cellphone in the cellphone edition of Engadget is just so much more appropriate it's not funny.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Panq]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 4:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Huge diffrence between news and "steve landed in another country" "jobs takes dump" etc<br><br>you Go Drakin!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[John M]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 8:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[wow dude you suck! who subscribes to a blog and then turns around and bashes the content? there are a bazzzilion tech blogs out there. go pick one that super-serves your own selfish needs!....makes ya sound  like a content-nazi. Douche!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[magicalex]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2007 8:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dude maybe you and maybe a lot of people dont like it but some of us fuckin love it so stfu and stop reading it, just move the hell on and dont waste your time posting. Engadget is not going to cut it out because some little whiney bitch like you cries a river over it.<br><br>APPLE FANBOYS UNITE! (fanboys, feel free to join my AFU facebook group!)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 8th 2007 6:40AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like how people find what they want to see...  <br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Apple is doing the same mistake when then they introduced the Macs. They are ignoring the Network effect, the power of third party. When Apple denied third party hardware to MAC or Apple OS, Microsoft was having developer conferences trying to get everyone on board. What made Windows successful are their partners.<br>IPhone can be easier to use and looks better than Pocket PC phones. (Sound similar? Mac vs Windows) but Pocket PC has wide open support for 3rd party developers and device makers. Sooner or later MS will come with a on par UI to IPhone and beat them again.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Emre Aydinceren]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Nice post! Exactly the same as my wonder :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tri]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:06PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[That is perhaps the biggest piece of common sense I've ever heard in engadget comments!<br><br>Well done!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Deab]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:09PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[At this point, it's just a matter of time till someone makes an unlocked knockoff of the iphone that does everything iphone users complain about right (Ev-do, bigger battery). that's the phone I'm waiting for. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[leland]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:17PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[well said.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MasterCKO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Good comment, but you're forgetting that another reason Windows (and Windows Mobile) is a lot bigger than Mac OS is, not only 3rd party support, but the fact that Microsoft will let anyone install Windows and Windows Mobile on their device.<br><br>OSX and OSX Mobile are Apple's and only on Apple's devices.<br>Whether OSX Mobile will be bigger than Windows Mobile is unknown, but it'll always be on the iPhone and only the iPhone.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mdc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[You got it in one, well said<br><br>It's that dam business model again, Apples vertical (don't mess we know best), MS horizontal (see what you lot can come up with, you know best). We may not always know best but it opens things up a bit.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ant]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:22PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Apple are a hardware company that happen to make amazing software. MS on the other hand are simply a software company "spreading their legs" to anyone who wants some. In my opinion, Apple are the only technology company left with any integrity and vision.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DB]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 2nd 2007 1:46AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[yeah seriously ryan... why dont you take a break from reporting all of this apple news to go tell the guys over at joystiq to STFU about Halo... really I'm getting sick of it...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[daedalus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wish they'd stop referring to people who buy tech gear as "consumers".  How about "users" instead?  Clearly, the paradigm of a benevolent corporate "Producer" supplying "product" to hoards of sheep-like "consumers" is no longer appropriate when iPhone purchasers are flocking to those who offer to remove the corporately installed shackles from their recent purchase.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[We are not consumers, or users (obligatory Tron head nod here), we're customers.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Bond]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:36PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[I for one have never "consumed" an electronic device ;p]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rzlmlchm009]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why haven't you? We know that it blends.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiogshi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 4:47PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[bricks typically don't blend all that well.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MARSHAK]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 6:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Feeling a bit self-important, Engadget?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:20PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Feeling un-important, Fred?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Feeling smart-alecky, Asher?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[LiQuiD_FuSioN]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Fred's got a point.  This Engadget article is long-winded and fluffy.  Its main points are lost in its gabby condescension.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[randy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 1:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Feeling myself under my desk.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, Palm pays attention to you for 5 minutes and all of a sudden you're "acting as a voice for the technology community,"<br><br>Why you feel it's necessary to write an open letter stating the obvious, and already well published fact that the firm ware updates suck and nobody likes them, is kind of silly.<br><br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric M]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sooo 50% of people owning an iPhone but not hacking it is nobody? Suuuuure.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kizorblade]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, Palm pays attention to you for 5 minutes and all of a sudden you're "acting as a voice for the technology community,"<br><br>Exactly. I think this site is starting to take itself WAY too seriously. I've been reading Engadget for a long time, which give me perspective in this statement, and I can definitely see the ego inflating. <br><br>Even as a Mac owner, I'm sick and tired of all the Apple news here. This really is like Joystiq and their non-stop coverage of the world's most decent shooter, Halo3.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 3:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, I actually took the completely opposite approach, and found it quite responsible to speak for a large user base that normally has no voice in the market.<br><br>And seriously guys, bloggers have a lot of power these days. Haven't you figured that out by now? Jesus, welcome to the 90's, people.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 10:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[The Iphone is probably the most beautiful piece of electronic equiptment I've seeen to date  (along side the PSP).<br><br>But, just when I think I might actually spend my money on an Apple product, situations like this arise which remind me of how Apple handles their devices and I lose my buying appetite. <br><br>Got a Blackberry Curve instead.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DickHardknocks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 12:20PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-customers-on-the-v1-1-1-update/</guid><description><![CDATA[How is the Curve related to an iPhone?  BB locks down there devices more than the iPhone, don't get your point.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 1st 2007 2:09PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>