A note to both Apple and iPhone customers on the v1.1.1 update
We're in a unique position here at Engadget, serving the technology community, while simultaneously interacting with and trying to make sense of the moves of the companies our readership patronizes. Apple's latest iPhone firmware, as you've probably heard, locks out third party applications, consequently preventing owners from using their device on networks other than AT&T -- so it's easy to see why this is being viewed as a hostile act, with thousands ready to storm the Cupertino castle in order to get their hacked iPhones back the pre-v1.1.1 status quo. Make no mistake about it, whether you care about the iPhone or not, this 150MB software update is uniquely controversial and causing a rift -- if not an outright adversarial relationship -- between Apple and untold thousands of its core customers, who've used Engadget comments, blogs, and any other sounding board at their disposal. So, may we have a word with both parties?Now, we're not going to assume we could possibly be the arbiter of a discussion so complex as this, but we think there a few things both parties should remember. Let's start with the iPhone users. Note: to be clear on nomenclature, when we say a device is "bricked", we mean it's completely unusable, not just that it's been re-locked to AT&T, or had 3rd party app support disabled, ok?
iPhone users,
We know you're incensed. You paid a premium price for a powerful phone with a lot of untapped potential, and only a few weeks after the third party iPhone community got to work on a slew of surprisingly well made apps -- including the holy grail of SIM unlock software (both free and paid) -- Cupertino drops the hammer and shuts it all off in the blink of an eye, in some cases even resulting in the bricking of your device. But before you grab a torch and a pitchfork, there are a few things you should know.
Apple's first mistake in this mess was the ominous sounding announcement they released last week, a few days ahead of the update. Here's the clip from the release:
"Apple has discovered that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed. ... Apple strongly discourages users from installing unauthorized unlocking programs on their iPhones. Users who make unauthorized modifications to the software on their iPhone violate their iPhone software license agreement and void their warranty. The permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone's warranty."
Apple's intentions here are perfectly clear and normal -- almost any electronics company out there will tell you that their customers are discouraged from hacking their devices, as it invariably voids the warranty and might be liable to cause issues in the future. And here's why this announcement was a mistake: Apple conflated the issues of SIM unlocking and/or adding 3rd party software with the anticipation of bricked devices. Basically, Apple sought to preemptively blame the 3rd party iPhone software community for any devices that their software update might brick. In the end, stating that the application of v1.1.1 to hacked phones "will likely result in ... permanently [inoperability]" ultimately makes Apple look like they're targeting thousands of iPhone modders -- which is why this press release is biting them in the ass.
There are a lot of Apple customers out there who have, indeed, had their devices bricked by v1.1.1. We can't say for sure how many, but we do know that blog authors to New York Times writers like Saul Hansell and Katie Hafner have leveled the pointing finger at Apple for targeting those adding software, in no small part due to the press release above. Apple's relationship with its customers is souring because, at the outset, many are starting to believe that the v1.1.1 is nefariously bricking hacked or modded devices; that Apple is somehow hell bent on punishing iPhone users who don't want to use the device Steve's way.
Unfortunately, we suspect the truth isn't quite such a juicy story for those looking to lay blame. We've seen just as many reports of legitimate, "factory fresh" users getting bricked iPhones as those who've just added apps, SIM unlocked their devices, or done both. In fact, besides a lot of hearsay and anger from the tech community, we've seen absolutely nothing which indicates to us that Apple is targeting users who've hacked their phones and is bricking them on update. In an informal and totally unscientific poll here on Engadget, the number of iPhone users who had never hacked their device but wound up bricked was very similar to the number of users who did hack and brick their device -- and that's even with polls showing far more voting users hacked their phones than not.
Without any correlation in bricking between hacked and unhacked iPhones, it's easy to imagine the v1.1.1 update went out without proper QA testing, and is bricking a certain number of phones indiscriminately. For further detail, we asked iPhone hacker extraordinaire Erica Sadun, of our sister blog TUAW, to weigh in. She said iPhones upgrading to v1.1.1 appear to have a completely "random distribution of bricks", implying the far simpler and likelier explanation is that the update was rushed to meet its release deadline. We know Apple promised the update would be out by September's end, and considering how much iPhone software was changed with this update, it stands to reason that Apple worked until the 11th hour just trying to finish up and push it out the door -- not testing it exhaustively for weeks before shipping to consumers.
So before you pick up any real bricks for hurling through Apple windows in a moment of frustration, consider the possibility that some potentially poor choices decisions on Apple's probably may have led to bricked devices, and the appearance might be that Cupertino is out to get you for hacking your phone. We sincerely doubt it's anything that nefarious. But totally locking down the iPhone doesn't exactly whet our whistle, either, so don't worry, we've still got an earful for Apple, too.
Ok, Apple.
Look, you've so seriously backed yourself into a corner on this one. We know you think you can't really be taking away what you never actually gave us. That we were all living on borrowed bits, so to speak, so tough luck when an update breaks something you didn't authorize -- and to a certain extent that's actually a fair stance to take. But the reality of the matter is that the consumer electronics market has changed, and consumer expectations don't just match what's on the spec sheet. We know that you've been extremely clear about what the iPhone does and doesn't do since day one, and we stand by our initial iPhone review -- we reviewed the iPhone as the device it was on the day of launch, not the device it might one day be. But we still think clamping down the iPhone is really bad news for consumers.
The first mistake that was made leading up to this whole debacle was enticing the hacker community to develop for the iPhone. Let's be fair, that's exactly what happened, you can't play innocent here. At Macworld Steve got up on stage and talked about how advanced the iPhone is running a "sophisticated" operating system like OS X, enabling the development of "REAL desktop-class applications", and "not the crippled stuff you find on most phones", only to demand the development community sandbox its functionality in mobile Safari. That's not dangling a carrot in front of the mule, that's just tempting fate.
The second mistake was loosing the iPhone in such a way that it was so easily broken into. We don't mean to trivialize the Apple's work in getting the iPhone out the door on time, or the open source community's work that went into gaining access to the iPhone and making it ripe for 3rd party development, but it was only a matter of days before iPhone hackers got root access to the device. At its core, jailbreaking an iPhone is just a matter of editing a small number of Unix files, which opens up the rest of the phone -- that's like complaining your encryption sucks when you're using ROT13. If you were so against users developing for the iPhone, you should have taken the precautions you took with the iPod touch (which is encrypted to all get out) when initially releasing the iPhone. But now you've convinced buyers of the iPhone's power to run "desktop-class applications" and then practically left the door open. This isn't a fun while it lasted kind of situation, this became the status quo. With AppTapp, 3rd party apps became so easy to install on the iPhone it was practically an undocumented feature.
The third mistake was putting out that press release, which could be construed as being intended to preemptively shift the blame of iPhone brickings to 3rd party iPhone software. There's simply no correlation between iPhone modding and bricking with v1.1.1. So far as we can tell, this fairly major iPhone update just wasn't properly tested, and it's bricking iPhones randomly and indiscriminately, killing just as many hacked devices as unhacked devices. To us this smacks a lot of the FUD we heard from Steve earlier this year, when he said, "You don't want your phone to be an open platform. ... [AT&T] doesn't want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up." There's obviously been no shortage of software-adding iPhone users, and yet the wireless company having trouble with uptime these days is RIM.
There has never been a question of whether you have the right to re-lock the iPhone -- that's more or less indisputable. We may own the hardware, but you own the IP, and while you can't really force us to upgrade, the free market says you can upgrade in countless ways you see fit. But with the damage done, for many users the iPhone lockdown has become a question of motive. We may never learn the true reasons why, but it seems only fair to pontificate, especially given Steve's comment in London about the iPhone becoming a cat and mouse game: "[Is Apple] the cat or mouse?"
Perhaps this is cause and effect of the SIM unlock solutions. Perhaps someone in accounting ran the numbers and figured out that Apple, which has unprecedented revenue sharing deals with its wireless carriers, will lose more money from people unlocking iPhones (which requires some level of 3rd party openness to accomplish) than it would from just selling the things outright -- therefore, in order to lock out the SIM unlock software, the only solution was to lock out ALL software. Or perhaps you're simply contractually obligated to prevent iPhone unlocks from occurring at all costs. (Knowing how much power Apple wields, though, it's hard to believe Steve wrote a blank check to ensure iPhones stay locked at all costs, including customer satisfaction.)
Or maybe it's because you intend to launch an iPhone software publishing service. Sure, why not? It's clear 3rd party apps are on the docket, we've heard way too many hints to think otherwise. And since you so closely control the hardware and software, maybe you're thinking of a more game console-like approach, like the way you sell iPod games -- offer customers only Apple-approved 3rd party iPhone software via iTunes. Developers get their apps certified, users get ease of installation and the assurance that their iPhone won't be knocking out AT&T's West Coast network (har), and Apple gets a cut of the cash. If that is indeed what you're doing, Apple, it sounds to us like you're in for a world of pain. The only thing worse than taking something away is taking it away only to offer it back for money.
Look, we, your users, are smart, and we demand more from every company we buy from. And as a consumer electronics company, you have a responsibility to your customers to continuously provide more. You can't put your Lego model in a kid's hand and throw a fit out when they make something better than you did. Like it or not, 3rd party developers found a way into the iPhone, thus fulfilling the inherent expectation that the iPhone should be an extensible platform. Whether or not you choose to publicly acknowledge it, that expectation is there, period. Sure, you can try to see this one through, but from where we sit in the middle, an inordinate number of first adoptors, smartphone user that switched to the iPhone, people that comprise your core customer base are starting to see you as villainous and money grubbing.
So why not let Steve give another a press-stopping mea culpa, giving your customers what they want (hey, maybe even throw in an SDK while you're at it?). Make developing for the iPhone as free and open as it is for every other smartphone around, and you still get to come out on top as the company that listens to its customers above all. Sure, the SIM unlock software might still be out there, but you can't fight this thing forever, the hackers will always catch up, and every wireless carrier in the world knows that. At a certain point you're expected to do the right thing for the people keeping you in business, and we think that's happening right now. Even if it is contractual obligation with the carriers that Apple must stop iPhone unlocking at all costs, isn't the buying public at least worthy of an explanation? Enough with the silent treatment, Apple. A lot of people handed over a lot of money for a cellphone, and we think it's time for some answers -- even if they're the answers we don't want to hear.
Image by Refracted Moments. Big ups to Erica at TUAW and the iPhone Dev Team.


















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 7)
Gizmoguy420 @ Oct 1st 2007 12:37PM
haha, LOL. So true...
Drakin @ Oct 1st 2007 12:13PM
"Apple's latest iPhone firmware, as you've probably heard"
No Ryan...No we haven't heard a damn thing about this...What with the posts every 5 minutes and all....
Maybe this will cause you guys to hate Apple so much you will stop blogging about them every 5 minutes.
Ryan Block @ Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM
We don't write about Apple a lot because we love them (nor, conversely, hate Microsoft); we do it because there's a lot of interesting Apple news and information out there that our audience appreciates. Ain't into it? Use the Apple-free feeds! (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/tired-of-iphone-and-or-apple-news-on-engadget/)
Drakin @ Oct 1st 2007 12:25PM
@Ryan
Hey that's a great idea about the RSS Feed stuff. But one problem. I noticed in the past that when I use this page, it is sometimes way out of date than what is currently on the website. I do not know why but I have noticed it being somewhere around 5 articles behind.
And don't tell me Apple is the only company with "Interesting" news out there.
Check this http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/surface.ars
More information on the Microsoft Surface.
Also I think your audience hates all the news as much as me. Did you check out that pole later back when you asked about the iPhone update? What was it like 40% of people said they were sick of it? (Yeah I know people can be stuffing the boxes."
Seriously I don't mind actual News but you guys post stuff that is just junk.
aaron @ Oct 1st 2007 12:27PM
I'm still waiting for a "IT'S ALL MICROSOFT'S FAULT MY IPHONE WON'T WORK" from some fanboy.
Jusitn @ Oct 1st 2007 12:31PM
Come on. This is an excellent post on an issue that is important to many engadget readers. I'm glad engadget is following this issue closely and serving as a mediator. I want apple to consider this issue carefully and figure out a way to give us native 3rd party apps without damaging their bussiness strategy. Thanks for laying it out.
Hardcore @ Oct 1st 2007 12:46PM
Why not just make the feed have additional apple stuff for people who care instead of having it be the filtered mechanism.
dj-kenpo @ Oct 1st 2007 12:47PM
apple isn't the only company doing things people are interested in ryan, give me a break. remember that whole halo3 thing? that you didn't report on becuase it was 'software' ya.. you only do hardware.
it made 170mil in 24 hours, records and stuff... that was news.. apparently... somewhere...
do what you want, blog what you want, but don't make silly excuses for it.
Cleverboy @ Oct 1st 2007 1:17PM
I don't think Apple "confused" of "conflated" the difference between unlocking and third-party apps at all. Unfortunately, EVERYONE seemed to be doing this. Leo Leporte went on a diatribe about it on MacBreak, merging the two concepts so seamlessly, you'd think AppTap had caused his Visual Voicemail to stop working. The only thing Apple didn't do, is provide a glossary at the beginning of the press release. Engadget itself even said that Apple came "close" to putting an onus on 3rd party development, but seemed pretty clear they were referring to unlockers, and the specific modifications unlocking made. I honestly think the REAL story here, that NO ONE is talking about, is whether the unlocking process truly messed up the IMEI numbers on phones, in part, or in whole (in ANY way). TUAW commented that this tendency to see munged IMEI numbers didn't seem connected to unlocks, yet did note that this was more common during early unlocking attempts. Altering the IMEI number in and of itself is actually against the law, as it could constitute an attempt to "clone" a phone, or otherwise masquerade the device using its serial number.
I'd love to call it like I see it, and say Apple did wrong. It DID NOT. If they did ANYthing wrong, it was not immediately coming out and saying, #1.) DO NOT HACK the iPhone with 3rd party applications. We are currently working on the security model of the device, and any alterations to these areas will likely be reset during major firmware updates, as we tighten security. #2.) Please be patient (already said), but we are planning 3rd party native application support in 2008. We will have more details when they're available. Until then, please take advantage of the level of support we can currently guarantee. We thank yo for your business.
Everything else is justifiable and expected. Look up UNLOCKING on the Internet. In some countries, its a "right". Here in the U.S., it is an "exemption" from prosecution under the DMCA. Doesn't that sound like we should be working on the LAWS, and not the individual business models of companies that work inside of the status quo? Currently, unlocking phones is a MINEFIELD, and if you're on the CDMA network (Verizon), you're more than likely out of luck if they decide to keep their network groovy for only "approved" devices "optimized" by excluding support for your phone.
Come on people. Big picture now.
Micah Neumark @ Oct 1st 2007 1:25PM
I don't think your comment really holds any weight unless Engadget stops covering the other stuff because of Apple News. And considering Engadget DID cover MS Surface, I don't think you have any right to complain. Sorry there is an article for you to skip. Maybe I should start complaining whenever I see an MS related article. I could start complaining about how many MS Surface posts there are. But, the problem is, MS Surface is a device almost no one has touched, where as anyone can walk into an Apple Store and mess around with an iPhone. When people are surrounded by a tech, it becomes much more meaningful and relevant, and then you see more stories for it. Since that is definitely true with Apple devices, you see more Apple stories. If you don't like Apple, you are ignoring a major part of the tech industry, and I feel sorry for you.
BUT PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING. ITS A WASTE OF TIME!!!
Reid Sorenson @ Oct 1st 2007 1:26PM
Or how about, guys, you just scroll right past the articles you don't want to read? That's what I do every time there's an article about the XBox or PlayStation. Don't care, don't read it. You're the only ones wasting your own time by reading--and commenting on, no less--news you don't care about. I hate to say it, but that's just being a troll.
Clancy @ Oct 2nd 2007 11:09AM
you idiot, you don't speak for the engadget 'audience', seriously if you don't like th blog I've got some award winning advice, Don't read it, much less don't bother wasting your time posting comments on it. ryan + team keep up the good work don't listen to this dudes crap.
apeguero @ Oct 1st 2007 1:31PM
Hey Ryan,
I hope you take their criticism as constructive. I for one don't mind seeing Apple news on your website. If I don't want to read it then I just skip it. Kind of like the radio or TV station thing where if I don't like a certain show then I just try to find another that suits my fancy in a different channel. So maybe this is a good thing that people are airing out their gripes.
Now, perhaps you may want to consider opening up an Engadget Apple site, similar to what you did with Engadget HD and Engadget Mobile. Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site. Just a thought.
Personally, I've always been a fan and appreciate the hard work you guys do. Besides, I don't know of any other blog that has user meets and tries their hardest for people to have a good time (Boston 2006 baby, yeah!).
I think this letter is great and I hope you will get the same response from Apple as you did from Palm. I sent a complaint letter to Steve over the weekend where I mentioned my frustration at him as well for allowing the 3rd party apps to be taken out. I asked if the reasoning for this was because Apple will be introducing software for the iPhone soon. If so then he should let us know. His response was that they're working on the things that I suggested. Whether it was Steve or not I don't know but I've heard the guy actually reads his emails and responds to them.
Anyway, don't take the criticism in a negative way. Their point is valid. See my suggestions above and hopefully they make sense.
APeguero
Tony @ Oct 1st 2007 1:58PM
Why dont you STFU and go elsewhere if you're not happy with the Apple posts here.
yakapo @ Oct 1st 2007 2:50PM
look at the title of this blog. Go to Ilovetocook.com if you don't want to see (no one's making you read them) posts about the iphone.
jlotempio @ Oct 1st 2007 2:53PM
Drakin,
I find your post to be highly uncalled for. I own an iPhone and have heard a great deal about it, but don't complain every time I see a post about it. There is an inordinate amount of places to gather your daily info. There is no need to be negative and call out the author of a post for doing his job.
John Sinshack @ Oct 1st 2007 3:08PM
You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.
For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site. However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.
Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone. However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.
Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.
There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.
John Sinshack @ Oct 1st 2007 3:10PM
You do bring up a very interesting point about iPhone posts possibly belonging in Engadget Mobile.
For new releases, features, rumors, and corporate letters like these, some of the iPhone posts do belong on the main Engadget site. However, there have been a lot of general iPhone news stories posted on the main site that don't grasp the interest of the majority of readers, such as an article on a new product would.
Along with many other products, I do enjoy following stories about the iPhone. However, the iPhone is, after all, a Phone, and most articles written about the device itself maybe should be posted at Engadget Mobile.
Ryan is quite accurate in that iPhone news has recently been unfolding faster than most other products, and accordingly needs more articles than other products in order to keep up to date.
There isn't as much of an issue over the amount of iPhone and Apple related posts as there being an issue of if these stories discuss the innovation of the technology community.
ark_v2 @ Oct 1st 2007 3:21PM
Ryan, you know, it's not that everybody of us, people who are tired of i-this i-that, do not care about apple. We would like our feeds to have IMPORTANT apple news. We want to know about everything, not just about apple or just about anything BUT apple. It's that simple.
jacob @ Oct 1st 2007 4:14PM
@ haters:
Is this your blog??? No. Hmm...thats what I thought. STFU!! The man can post whatever he wants.
Panq @ Oct 1st 2007 4:25PM
"Or maybe even just posting all iPhone posts in the Engadget Mobile site."
Err... why AREN'T all the iPhone posts specifically made on the Engadget Mobile site? I mean, isn't that site SPECIFICALLY for mobile phones and similar devices? Seriously, posting about a cellphone in the cellphone edition of Engadget is just so much more appropriate it's not funny.
John M @ Oct 1st 2007 8:00PM
Huge diffrence between news and "steve landed in another country" "jobs takes dump" etc
you Go Drakin!!!
magicalex @ Oct 7th 2007 8:25AM
wow dude you suck! who subscribes to a blog and then turns around and bashes the content? there are a bazzzilion tech blogs out there. go pick one that super-serves your own selfish needs!....makes ya sound like a content-nazi. Douche!
Nik @ Oct 8th 2007 6:40AM
Dude maybe you and maybe a lot of people dont like it but some of us fuckin love it so stfu and stop reading it, just move the hell on and dont waste your time posting. Engadget is not going to cut it out because some little whiney bitch like you cries a river over it.
APPLE FANBOYS UNITE! (fanboys, feel free to join my AFU facebook group!)
Emre Aydinceren @ Oct 1st 2007 12:18PM
Apple is doing the same mistake when then they introduced the Macs. They are ignoring the Network effect, the power of third party. When Apple denied third party hardware to MAC or Apple OS, Microsoft was having developer conferences trying to get everyone on board. What made Windows successful are their partners.
IPhone can be easier to use and looks better than Pocket PC phones. (Sound similar? Mac vs Windows) but Pocket PC has wide open support for 3rd party developers and device makers. Sooner or later MS will come with a on par UI to IPhone and beat them again.
Tri @ Oct 1st 2007 1:06PM
Nice post! Exactly the same as my wonder :)
Mark Deab @ Oct 1st 2007 1:09PM
That is perhaps the biggest piece of common sense I've ever heard in engadget comments!
Well done!
leland @ Oct 1st 2007 1:17PM
At this point, it's just a matter of time till someone makes an unlocked knockoff of the iphone that does everything iphone users complain about right (Ev-do, bigger battery). that's the phone I'm waiting for.
MasterCKO @ Oct 1st 2007 1:18PM
well said.
mdc @ Oct 1st 2007 2:28PM
Good comment, but you're forgetting that another reason Windows (and Windows Mobile) is a lot bigger than Mac OS is, not only 3rd party support, but the fact that Microsoft will let anyone install Windows and Windows Mobile on their device.
OSX and OSX Mobile are Apple's and only on Apple's devices.
Whether OSX Mobile will be bigger than Windows Mobile is unknown, but it'll always be on the iPhone and only the iPhone.
Ant @ Oct 1st 2007 3:22PM
You got it in one, well said
It's that dam business model again, Apples vertical (don't mess we know best), MS horizontal (see what you lot can come up with, you know best). We may not always know best but it opens things up a bit.
DB @ Oct 2nd 2007 1:46AM
Apple are a hardware company that happen to make amazing software. MS on the other hand are simply a software company "spreading their legs" to anyone who wants some. In my opinion, Apple are the only technology company left with any integrity and vision.
daedalus @ Oct 1st 2007 12:18PM
yeah seriously ryan... why dont you take a break from reporting all of this apple news to go tell the guys over at joystiq to STFU about Halo... really I'm getting sick of it...
Peter @ Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM
I wish they'd stop referring to people who buy tech gear as "consumers". How about "users" instead? Clearly, the paradigm of a benevolent corporate "Producer" supplying "product" to hoards of sheep-like "consumers" is no longer appropriate when iPhone purchasers are flocking to those who offer to remove the corporately installed shackles from their recent purchase.
Julian Bond @ Oct 1st 2007 12:36PM
We are not consumers, or users (obligatory Tron head nod here), we're customers.
rzlmlchm009 @ Oct 1st 2007 2:13PM
I for one have never "consumed" an electronic device ;p
Tiogshi @ Oct 1st 2007 4:47PM
Why haven't you? We know that it blends.
MARSHAK @ Oct 1st 2007 6:14PM
bricks typically don't blend all that well.
Eric M @ Oct 1st 2007 12:19PM
Wow, Palm pays attention to you for 5 minutes and all of a sudden you're "acting as a voice for the technology community,"
Why you feel it's necessary to write an open letter stating the obvious, and already well published fact that the firm ware updates suck and nobody likes them, is kind of silly.
Kizorblade @ Oct 1st 2007 2:03PM
Sooo 50% of people owning an iPhone but not hacking it is nobody? Suuuuure.
jds @ Oct 1st 2007 3:49PM
Wow, Palm pays attention to you for 5 minutes and all of a sudden you're "acting as a voice for the technology community,"
Exactly. I think this site is starting to take itself WAY too seriously. I've been reading Engadget for a long time, which give me perspective in this statement, and I can definitely see the ego inflating.
Even as a Mac owner, I'm sick and tired of all the Apple news here. This really is like Joystiq and their non-stop coverage of the world's most decent shooter, Halo3.
John @ Oct 1st 2007 10:30PM
Wow, I actually took the completely opposite approach, and found it quite responsible to speak for a large user base that normally has no voice in the market.
And seriously guys, bloggers have a lot of power these days. Haven't you figured that out by now? Jesus, welcome to the 90's, people.
DickHardknocks @ Oct 1st 2007 12:20PM
The Iphone is probably the most beautiful piece of electronic equiptment I've seeen to date (along side the PSP).
But, just when I think I might actually spend my money on an Apple product, situations like this arise which remind me of how Apple handles their devices and I lose my buying appetite.
Got a Blackberry Curve instead.
Jake @ Oct 1st 2007 2:09PM
How is the Curve related to an iPhone? BB locks down there devices more than the iPhone, don't get your point.
Christian LeBrilla @ Oct 2nd 2007 9:01PM
Really? Because I'm pretty sure there are a plethora of 3rd party Blackberry programs and it's extremely easy to unlock them. Plus their updates don't lock you out of your phone.
Think or research before posting, thanks.
Fred @ Oct 1st 2007 12:20PM
Feeling a bit self-important, Engadget?
Asher @ Oct 1st 2007 12:28PM
Feeling un-important, Fred?
LiQuiD_FuSioN @ Oct 1st 2007 12:48PM
Feeling smart-alecky, Asher?
randy @ Oct 1st 2007 1:48PM
Fred's got a point. This Engadget article is long-winded and fluffy. Its main points are lost in its gabby condescension.
Chris @ Oct 1st 2007 3:26PM
Feeling myself under my desk.