I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware. It's not like if you install a program on your mac, and the hard drive dies, they can just up and void your entire warranty.
Every user should have to right to a restore program, if I don't touch the hardware, you shouldn't be able to void my hardware warranty, period.
You guys are really something! Come on now, let be realistic about this. EVERY big boy corporation is about MAKING MONEY! That is the nature of our wonderful system. Last time I checked apple was not a non-profit organization. You kids should really get a clue. Jobs is required to look out for the best interest of Apple shareholders…. And that means making a profit from the products they develop, developing new products in order to stay profitable, protecting apple intellectual property, and protecting the integrity of the partnerships Apple have formed in order to make money.
Honestly guys grow up, quit your crying (b**ching), go wash your face with proactive, and ask your mom and dad to explain how capitalism works and why it is a GREAT SYSTEM.
So let's say you install some software(represents: iPhone unlock) on your Mac (represents: iPhone) and somehow the software causes your Mac to crash all the time, and eventually hardware damage.
Who's fault is it? If Apple tells you that they can't support that software, and if the people who are providing the unlock software also say that it's at your own risk.
Guess what? It's at YOUR risk. You can't expect Apple to repair damage from software they didn't create.
In a way Apple is just covering their ass against thousands of service requests because someone messed with the software. Any of us unlocking the phone knows we are doing it at our own risk. but there are probably thousands of people out there who would expect Apple to fix something that they themselves voluntarily "broke." Business is about money, all you M$ fanboys know that, all the Apple fanboys know that, so why do you expect more because Apple is now run like a business and not your friend?
"I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware."
Software modification can make a device run very differently than it was intended. For example, I have a piece of software on my 8125 that enables the processor to be overclocked. If I wanted to I could easily fry the processor.
While I agree that Apple should release an SDK and enable 3rd party development to increase functionality, its ludicrous to expect them to support hacks that could potentially cause thousands of bricked or damaged iPhones; especially considering the millions of dollars they've spent to get their software to run as well as it does.
I've been an Apple 'fanboy' for over a decade and I don't understand what all the bitching is about. People have been wanting an iPhone for years, and now they finally have it and they're still not happy. I want a Mac Pro that dispenses Guinness, I know I can make one, but it'll void my warranty.
Either be happy with what you've got, or wait until that product does what you want it to do. And if you're that impatient, then maybe your priorities are out of order.
i have yet to come across a handset maker that actually encourages hacking. unlocking is one thing, cuz moto/nokia/sammy phones are NOT designed while having 'lock' in mind - the decision to lock them is made by the carrier
so back to my point. apple released the iphone WITH THE INTENTION to lock it to at&t, and by 'unlocking' it you're hacking it, and none of the companies like u hacking their products. don't believe me? go to modmymoto or howardforums or motomodders or ANY PHONE HACKING SITE and all of them will tell you that by hacking the phone you will void the warranty, simple as that.
grow up kids, i know it's fun to poke fun at a company with a lot of blind zealots, but you should poke fun with some sense.
Funny. Plam doesn't give me grief over warranty issues when I install third party software or even leave the cellular carrier the phone was first sold from. What's the deal Apple?
Funny. PhotoJoe, installing programs is not the same as hacking. And palm doesn't have exclusive contracts with just one carrier. that's the deal.
seems like a lot of you guys still don't get it, so here's an example: you can enable java uploader on a moto, upload a .jar and .jad file to install a game. that's fine, moto doesn't mind. HOWEVER, if the phone comes with a particular flash and flex but you decided to put a foreign hacked flex over it which bricks it, it's not moto's fault and they will not fix it.
Since when is the profit motive the only laudable goal for a company to follow? Perhaps you, like the rest of the archcapitalists who love to mock those who think fair play in capitalism is a good idea, have forgotten that both companies and markets are composed of real people.
Also, since when is forgoing long-term progress in favor of short-term gain a good idea?
It is very bad boy from Apple. Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung allow GSM unlocking and it does not void your warranty because of it. In fact Windows Mobile updates never broke the software unlock I did on my smartphone.
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bruckwine @ Sep 24th 2007 5:54PM
Big Bad Bro Apple has finally arrived for world and wallet domination!
Mike D @ Sep 24th 2007 6:58PM
apple has always been about wallet domination they're just finally showing their colors on the iphone
LegendZ28 @ Sep 24th 2007 6:33PM
I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware. It's not like if you install a program on your mac, and the hard drive dies, they can just up and void your entire warranty.
Every user should have to right to a restore program, if I don't touch the hardware, you shouldn't be able to void my hardware warranty, period.
luidabruin @ Sep 24th 2007 6:33PM
You guys are really something!
Come on now, let be realistic about this. EVERY big boy corporation is about MAKING MONEY! That is the nature of our wonderful system. Last time I checked apple was not a non-profit organization. You kids should really get a clue. Jobs is required to look out for the best interest of Apple shareholders…. And that means making a profit from the products they develop, developing new products in order to stay profitable, protecting apple intellectual property, and protecting the integrity of the partnerships Apple have formed in order to make money.
Honestly guys grow up, quit your crying (b**ching), go wash your face with proactive, and ask your mom and dad to explain how capitalism works and why it is a GREAT SYSTEM.
Tony @ Sep 24th 2007 6:43PM
@LegendZ28
So let's say you install some software(represents: iPhone unlock) on your Mac (represents: iPhone) and somehow the software causes your Mac to crash all the time, and eventually hardware damage.
Who's fault is it?
If Apple tells you that they can't support that software, and if the people who are providing the unlock software also say that it's at your own risk.
Guess what? It's at YOUR risk.
You can't expect Apple to repair damage from software they didn't create.
david @ Sep 24th 2007 6:59PM
And the M$ fanboys respond!
In a way Apple is just covering their ass against thousands of service requests because someone messed with the software. Any of us unlocking the phone knows we are doing it at our own risk. but there are probably thousands of people out there who would expect Apple to fix something that they themselves voluntarily "broke." Business is about money, all you M$ fanboys know that, all the Apple fanboys know that, so why do you expect more because Apple is now run like a business and not your friend?
Jeremy H @ Sep 24th 2007 7:24PM
@LegendZ28-
"I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware."
Software modification can make a device run very differently than it was intended. For example, I have a piece of software on my 8125 that enables the processor to be overclocked. If I wanted to I could easily fry the processor.
While I agree that Apple should release an SDK and enable 3rd party development to increase functionality, its ludicrous to expect them to support hacks that could potentially cause thousands of bricked or damaged iPhones; especially considering the millions of dollars they've spent to get their software to run as well as it does.
narco @ Sep 24th 2007 7:51PM
I've been an Apple 'fanboy' for over a decade and I don't understand what all the bitching is about. People have been wanting an iPhone for years, and now they finally have it and they're still not happy. I want a Mac Pro that dispenses Guinness, I know I can make one, but it'll void my warranty.
Either be happy with what you've got, or wait until that product does what you want it to do. And if you're that impatient, then maybe your priorities are out of order.
LordFarkward @ Sep 24th 2007 10:44PM
wait why is this news? why are u guys up in arms?
i have yet to come across a handset maker that actually encourages hacking. unlocking is one thing, cuz moto/nokia/sammy phones are NOT designed while having 'lock' in mind - the decision to lock them is made by the carrier
so back to my point. apple released the iphone WITH THE INTENTION to lock it to at&t, and by 'unlocking' it you're hacking it, and none of the companies like u hacking their products. don't believe me? go to modmymoto or howardforums or motomodders or ANY PHONE HACKING SITE and all of them will tell you that by hacking the phone you will void the warranty, simple as that.
grow up kids, i know it's fun to poke fun at a company with a lot of blind zealots, but you should poke fun with some sense.
PhotoJoe @ Sep 25th 2007 12:49AM
Funny. Plam doesn't give me grief over warranty issues when I install third party software or even leave the cellular carrier the phone was first sold from. What's the deal Apple?
LordFarkward @ Sep 25th 2007 2:35AM
Funny. PhotoJoe, installing programs is not the same as hacking. And palm doesn't have exclusive contracts with just one carrier. that's the deal.
seems like a lot of you guys still don't get it, so here's an example: you can enable java uploader on a moto, upload a .jar and .jad file to install a game. that's fine, moto doesn't mind. HOWEVER, if the phone comes with a particular flash and flex but you decided to put a foreign hacked flex over it which bricks it, it's not moto's fault and they will not fix it.
simple enough yet?
starkruzr @ Sep 25th 2007 8:13PM
@luidabruin:
Since when is the profit motive the only laudable goal for a company to follow? Perhaps you, like the rest of the archcapitalists who love to mock those who think fair play in capitalism is a good idea, have forgotten that both companies and markets are composed of real people.
Also, since when is forgoing long-term progress in favor of short-term gain a good idea?
LJKelley @ Sep 25th 2007 12:13PM
It is very bad boy from Apple. Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung allow GSM unlocking and it does not void your warranty because of it. In fact Windows Mobile updates never broke the software unlock I did on my smartphone.