[John Meyer @ Aug 29th 2007 10:53AM]

You have to be kidding me right? Doesn't it seem like everything Apple comes out with, some other company copies it?

[Robert Kieffer @ Aug 29th 2007 10:55AM]

I agree, this is just ridiculous.

[Iain @ Aug 29th 2007 10:56AM]

And what if they can make it better?
Say it has HSDPA, MMS support, none of the SMS-related flaws that the iPhone has, isn't ridiculously over-priced on a contract and isn't locked to one network; then what does it matter that Apple came first?

Surely, at the end of the day, if Nokia can make an iPhone without the crap bits then that's a good thing?

[Pans @ Aug 29th 2007 11:06AM]

When Apple does it to another companies device, these same people will rush in to tell us that it's ok because they can make it better.


So no surprise that the usual suspects, and the person who posted this story are acting so pissed. Wait until Apple does it again and you will hear a totally different tune.

Apple can copy whomever they want WITHOUT question from this site.

[Alan Strangis @ Aug 29th 2007 11:05AM]

Like a touchscreen interface using icons on a phone? They should sue Palm... oh wait...

Seriously, everybody 'copies' everybody else. Most tech is evolutionary, not revolutionary. This isn't a knock on the iPhone, but it's worth pointing out that Apple didn't invent everything and I welcome the process. It means more competition, and more options for the end user.

[Pans @ Aug 29th 2007 11:32AM]

@Alan Strangis

More options for consumers only applies as a reason when it is Apple that is doing it.

When other bring options other than the Apple device then it is a matter of them being rip-off artist that cant be original, and thus they must be derided and jeered.

It's all about protecting Apple.

[Alan Strangis @ Aug 29th 2007 11:18AM]

@ Pans: In all honesty, I'm thinking of giving up going the headlines into the comment section exactly for that reason. I don't understand the cult-like worship. The ignorance of fanboys makes me WANT to hate the company that makes Final Cut Studio 2 (which I love to death).

[Todd @ Aug 29th 2007 11:21AM]

@Pans-

The difference is that Apple doesn't create devices that copy feature for feature another company's offering. They try to improve the user experience, which doesn't necessarily mean adding more features (sometimes it even means removing features).

What it seems most people fail to acknowledge with these iPhone copies is that it is not the hardware alone that makes the iPhone successful. It's not even the software. It's Apple's end-to-end product strategy- iTunes, iTunes Music Store, iPod Dock, iPhone. The hardware on its own would fail, but when combined with convenient tools like iTunes and the Dock it makes all other copycats laughable.

Until a copycat realizes that it takes more than lookalike hardware and a cheap price, iPhone copies will be about as successful as iPod copies. And we all know how successful those have been.

[Alan Strangis @ Aug 29th 2007 11:29AM]

@ Todd: Reduced functionality is a bonus?

Maybe on a corporate level, but not for the end user who wants to do more, and not be tied to one company for all their needs.

[James Kever @ Aug 29th 2007 11:35AM]

At least the phone will be open to any carrier and able to run third party applications without any hacking. Symbian rocks anyhow.

[Chrisphillers @ Aug 29th 2007 11:42AM]

Errm and who did Apple copy for their iphone!? Read a bit before making silly comments - the LG phone touchscreen was out a mile before the iphone - funnily enough almost exactly the same..

[fraggle_rocker @ Aug 29th 2007 12:38PM]

If something like a touch screen exists then people are free to use it however they want.. How that rips apple off i don't know, I mean apple wasn't even first to the table with a touch screen phone.

With that said, i will always think these things are aimed at the britney spears of the world, and will always give them a miss.

[JD @ Aug 29th 2007 12:39PM]

Chrisphillers- I think they ripped off Linksys's iPhone. :)

[Stevemax @ Aug 29th 2007 3:09PM]

@Todd
From a picture of a work-in-progress you can already tell it doesn't improve, even with Nokia constantly making the best phones out there? I'm quite sure this phone will not be tied to a single carrier on a single country, and that it will have the top mobile technology they can get on it (HSDPA/HSUPA probably), and an open OS in which you can actually install stuff without resorting to third-party installers (AKA Symbian).

[cromas @ Aug 29th 2007 12:58PM]

Symbian rocks? Given my yearlong experience with my S60.3 N-series phone, I'd offer the humble opinion that Symbian is absolute shit.

[norman619 @ Aug 29th 2007 1:20PM]

Yeah right. Nokia had the large touch screen in concet long ago. Apple is just the first to come out with a full implimentation of it. It was even featured here.
http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/19/nokia-concept-phone-n-gage-2/
http://blog.landspurg.net/nokia-concept-phone

How soon the Apple fanboys forget. Sorry but Apple wasn't the first to come up with the idea. They were the first to market. And it's not a really innovative idea. Everyone in the industry knew this was where cellphones were headed hence Nokia's concepts.

[TOBER @ Aug 29th 2007 2:28PM]

"they" copy everything. Including the prescription medication you get at the pharmacies. Yes thats right, drywall filled prescription medication. Duplicated to look EXACTLTY the same as say your heart or cholesterol meds. Copies are often made CHEAPLY. This is where Apple will prosper. keep your "drywall" filled imitations.

[DarkAardvark @ Aug 29th 2007 2:24PM]

do you not realize the iPhone is a copy of the LG Prada? ohdamn

[silvrdragn @ Aug 29th 2007 3:48PM]

Please, do you know apple rips off other artists?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/05/apples-little-problem-with-ripping-off-artists/

[Caboose127 @ Aug 30th 2007 1:27AM]

I'm not sure if you've really been paying attention over the last 20 years, but the way it's looked to me is Apple has a pretty clearly scripted production strategy. I'm guessing it goes something like this.

1: Find something that everybody uses,or should be using
2: Make it shiny, and simple enough for your one armed grandma to use.
3: Come up with ridiculous new features that will attract buyers long enough to spend the money, but not long enough to think they don't need the new version in 3 months
4:Fill with lackluster features that are easily "improved on" by the newest line of Apple branded accessories.
5: Market the hell out of it.

I'm pretty sure thats the same check list that they've used for every product they've made over the last 15 years. Show me an Apple product, and I'll show you a product that does twice as much for half the price.

Nobody copies Apple, Apple just brainwashes consumers into thinking that their product is the only true version, and all else are just copies. Case in point: how many times have you heard someone call any Mp3 player an iPod, not because the iPod is least expensive, or because it has more features, but because everyone thinks that it's the only Mp3 player on the market. And thats exactly how Steve wants it.

So kudos Nokia, anyone who thinks your phone is a rip off of the iPhone (a name which, by the way, was ripped off from Cisco) try bringing their iMac into the tub with them, doing us the favor of cleaning up the gene pool.

[Max @ Aug 30th 2007 12:15AM]

Is it any different with any other company? You could argue that everyone is just copying BlackBerry with RedBerries. And hey, Apple's entrance into real existence was because of the UI they took from Xerox.
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Max ... Out!
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[Texrat @ Sep 12th 2007 10:51PM]

Yeah... it's not like Apple copied anyone like Xerox PARC with their first UI.

Oops...

[nh @ Apr 8th 2008 5:15AM]

Apple didn't do anything particularly revolutionary with the iPhone, what they did was make it acceptable to break established rules. Remember the touchscreen SE P800... and then the P900 which brought the keypad back? Now it's acceptable to have no keypad even if it is just as awkward as it ever was.